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	<title>Comments on: Tommy Cryer wins</title>
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		<title>By: Wash my feet! Paint my chicken coop! &#124; Prose Before Hos</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>Wash my feet! Paint my chicken coop! &#124; Prose Before Hos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: winecommonsewer</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>winecommonsewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say it&#039;s theft without deception. :-)

As I tell my kids, legal doesn&#039;t always translate to moral and moral isn&#039;t always legal. 

Whether or not this particular tax is legal doesn&#039;t bear on it&#039;s morality. 

If, and I agree that it is, income tax is immoral then so is any other tax that isn&#039;t voluntary and the thing I disagree with is when the tax protest folks make the claim that if only income tax was actually legal they would gladly pay it. That is not a particularly principled stand although it is gutsy. If income tax is immoral, it is immoral whether or not it is legal and they should be no more glad to pay it if legal than if it isn&#039;t legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s theft without deception. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As I tell my kids, legal doesn&#8217;t always translate to moral and moral isn&#8217;t always legal. </p>
<p>Whether or not this particular tax is legal doesn&#8217;t bear on it&#8217;s morality. </p>
<p>If, and I agree that it is, income tax is immoral then so is any other tax that isn&#8217;t voluntary and the thing I disagree with is when the tax protest folks make the claim that if only income tax was actually legal they would gladly pay it. That is not a particularly principled stand although it is gutsy. If income tax is immoral, it is immoral whether or not it is legal and they should be no more glad to pay it if legal than if it isn&#8217;t legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Miche</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Miche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax Deception Video &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7521758492370018023&amp;q=tax+deception&amp;total=56&amp;start=0&amp;num=10&amp;so=0&amp;type=search&amp;plindex=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: winecommonsewer</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>winecommonsewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy Crier was acquitted of failure to file based upon his honestly held belief that he is not required to file a tax return. While that is certainly good news it isn&#039;t as exciting as it would first appear. 

For some inexplicable reason the feds dismissed some of the more serious charges that could have resulted in jail time for Tommy.

The taxes he owes have not been waived or dismissed and they will be collected by the same civil procedures that IRS uses to collect from everybody else.

These are the same methods that they are using to garnish Vernice Kuglin&#039;a FedEx salary for back taxes. She was also acquitted of failure to file and tax evasion. Don&#039;t matter a bit, IRS is collecting the taxes she should have paid and it&#039;s legal. The up side is that she isn&#039;t in prison. 

For the record, I am in favor of abolishing income tax, but hanging your hat on obscure technicalities simply isn&#039;t going to accomplish very much. The federales are not going to relinquish a trillion dollar revenue stream because Irwin Schiff says that we don&#039;t really have to pay income tax on wages. There&#039;s almost 90 years of legal precedent that says otherwise. 

And, let&#039;s assume for the sake of argument that the Supers strike down income tax as illegal on those very grounds. How long do you think it will take CONgress to amend the code to make income tax legal? I&#039;d say, a voice vote would take about an hour. 

In as far as taxes are not voluntary, they are immoral. However, our American legal system says that income tax is completely legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy Crier was acquitted of failure to file based upon his honestly held belief that he is not required to file a tax return. While that is certainly good news it isn&#8217;t as exciting as it would first appear. </p>
<p>For some inexplicable reason the feds dismissed some of the more serious charges that could have resulted in jail time for Tommy.</p>
<p>The taxes he owes have not been waived or dismissed and they will be collected by the same civil procedures that IRS uses to collect from everybody else.</p>
<p>These are the same methods that they are using to garnish Vernice Kuglin&#8217;a FedEx salary for back taxes. She was also acquitted of failure to file and tax evasion. Don&#8217;t matter a bit, IRS is collecting the taxes she should have paid and it&#8217;s legal. The up side is that she isn&#8217;t in prison. </p>
<p>For the record, I am in favor of abolishing income tax, but hanging your hat on obscure technicalities simply isn&#8217;t going to accomplish very much. The federales are not going to relinquish a trillion dollar revenue stream because Irwin Schiff says that we don&#8217;t really have to pay income tax on wages. There&#8217;s almost 90 years of legal precedent that says otherwise. </p>
<p>And, let&#8217;s assume for the sake of argument that the Supers strike down income tax as illegal on those very grounds. How long do you think it will take CONgress to amend the code to make income tax legal? I&#8217;d say, a voice vote would take about an hour. </p>
<p>In as far as taxes are not voluntary, they are immoral. However, our American legal system says that income tax is completely legal.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it&#039;s encouraging that 12 jurors agreed that we shouldn&#039;t have to pay income tax for individual labor. I find it hard to believe this is going to result in a mass revolt against the income tax, but one can hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s encouraging that 12 jurors agreed that we shouldn&#8217;t have to pay income tax for individual labor. I find it hard to believe this is going to result in a mass revolt against the income tax, but one can hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Miche</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Miche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ startingtoday
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		<title>By: howlinfox</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>howlinfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, I heard something about this. I&#039;m so glad he made that point about it not being profit. I&#039;m so glad they won. Great blog, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, I heard something about this. I&#8217;m so glad he made that point about it not being profit. I&#8217;m so glad they won. Great blog, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: trendyme</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>trendyme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey dude, please help me score an iPhone, read my blog for more details!
http://trendyme.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/help-me-score-an-iphone/
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey dude, please help me score an iPhone, read my blog for more details!<br />
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Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: startingtoday</title>
		<link>http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/tommy-cryer-wins/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>startingtoday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds interesting.  Was this story featured anywhere else except for the World Net Daily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds interesting.  Was this story featured anywhere else except for the World Net Daily?</p>
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