Child safety: Parent or state responsibility?
My baby sis forwarded to me an email that got under my skin. She is a damn good mother; she doesn’t talk about how much she loves her children, she shows everyday the depth of that love. She asked my opinion on the email and after I gave it, she said I could post it here. I left out her friend’s name, but here is the forwarded message:
Hello Everyone,
I was really moved by the Oprah show today as it was concerning child predators and how to protect our children. I’m asking everyone to just take a minute and download the following letter that is attached; then sign and send to our state lawmakers (senators and govenor). It is a letter asking for funding for the Adam Walsh Child Protection Act. It is disgraceful how our laws are so poor concerning the protection of our children and it is time that we demand that they begin to change! It will only take a few minutes time and will contribute to bringing about much needed changes in our poor laws. Thanks!!
To make it even easier here are the addresses too!
Senator John Warner (R)
225 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-4601Senator James Webb (D)
C1 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-4604Governor Tim Kaine
State Capital , 3rd Floor
Richmond, VA 23219Also, please feel free to pass this on if you would like.
Let’s do what we need for our children!!!
My response to her was this:
Hey L! I am happy to hear from you. I got the constituent letter you sent regarding more stringent “child protection” laws and wanted to give you some information. You know that I care deeply about child safety, especially with regard to sexual assault, but I take issue with a few points in the attachment. The first issue is with the appeal itself.
To ask the government to fund any mandate for the “protection of children” is to abdicate parental responsibility to the state. Such mandates do not work and only fleece the taxpayer for monies, which in the best of situations is wasted on bureaucracy and in worst, totally misappropriated. The government has ruled time and time again that it has no duty to protect your family. You need only review Supreme Court cases involving right to POLICE protection to see that the state cares nothing for your safety or that of your children.
This link will take you the decision of the Supreme Court regarding the murder of a CO woman’s children by her ex-husband. The court decided that she had no right to police protection even though she had an enforceable restraining order.
This link will take you to another Supreme Court decision regarding a boy who was beaten and permanently injured by his father. There were many complaints filed about the abuse and the state did nothing to protect him. “a) A State’s failure to protect an individual against private violence generally does not constitute a violation of the Due Process Clause, because the Clause imposes no duty on the State to provide members of the general public with adequate protective services. The Clause is phrased as a limitation on the State’s power to act, not as a guarantee of certain minimal levels of safety and security; while it forbids the State itself to deprive individuals of life, liberty, and property without due process of law, its language cannot fairly be read to impose an affirmative obligation on the State to ensure that those interests do not come to harm through other means. Pp. 194-197.”
You should also know that national registries are effective for little more than public stigmatization. Many “sex offenders” on the registries are not pedophiles at all, but young men and women who were of majority and had consensual sex with another teen not yet of majority. In such cases, many prosecutors vigorously pursue a plea agreement which results in sex offender registration. This is seen in the Genarlow Wilson case.
The law already has mechanisms in place to deal with child sex offenders. They are the courts and prisons. What we need to do is hold our courts accountable. It is my opinion that prosecutors should avoid the slam dunk plea deals in the marginal cases like Wilson’s, and concentrate on maximum sentencing for true offenders. Wilson refused the deal made by prosecutors because of the “sex offender” registration. He was 17 and had consensual oral sex with a 15 year old. He is serving 10 years because he refused the deal. How many truly violent pedophiles do you think will walk because of the resources wasted in cases like Wilson’s?
Finally, most child sexual assault is committed by someone close to the child. 89% of child sexual assault causes involve persons known to the child, such as a caretaker or family acquaintance. Source: Diane Russell Survey, 1978
Oprah means well with her public service announcements, but her business is to engage viewers. Anytime you talk about child safety, parents sit at rapt attention. Demanding more ineffective laws, paid for by John Q. Taxpayer is the wrong solution. You know that I love P. and M. so much and that is why I am asking you not to buy the hype. Only parents can protect their children; indeed, it is the primary responsibility of parenting. Watch them closely and when they are older, pay attention to what they do online. I am asking you, for the sake of my niece and nephew, not to abdicate your responsibility to the state. All you will get for it is a false sense of security.
Love,
Miche
I post the exchange here because I wonder how many parents really believe that sex offender laws work. I wonder if any of my friends feel the same as I, or if they fall into the camp of the original emailer. Does the average parent really think that more government will protect their children?



Good response!
As the father of a young daughter I totally agree! I only expect government to prosecute those who engage in sexual crimes directed against children. What more can they do? Nothing.
The rest is up to me, and the self-defense lessons my daughter will soon learn.
-J. Kaiser
You give me hope Mr. Kaiser!
Hey Misch,
As a non-parent, but a John Q. Taxpayer nonetheless, I agree with your response wholeheartedly. Everytime I hear folks stating “but this is for the children” I am instantly turned off. Parents and parents only can protect their children.
I’d never expect a law to protect my children, and I’m not looking for one over and above what exists. I’d just like to see real cases prosecuted better than they are in my state. It’d help if all the non-violent drug offenders serving insane mandatory minimum sentences were released so rapists and child molesters could actually serve real time.
Right now sex offenders, including pedophiles, are kept home under house arrest with bracelets they frequently take off and leave on the dresser to go out and get up to no good.
BTW, what did she write back?
I ended up replying to all-copy/paste/font issues-oops. The lady who sent the original email was quite upset with me for “pushing my political agenda” but my little sis understood that I was talking about responsibility and not agenda. The original emailer wasn’t nice, but not rude either, and I haven’t decided whether or not to respond. Ideological diferences sometimes bring out the worst in us.
Thank you for your comments honestpoet; I really appreciated your writing style and it means a lot that you stopped by. Of course, it helps that I also think non-violent drug offenders should be released to make room for predators.
Please don’t paraphrase me….below is my response in it’s exact form. By the way, I’m not upset….I actaully think it’s quite funny that my email could cause such a spark. You’re entitled to your opinion as I’m entitled to mine. I just didn’t appreciate my email being used as a soap-box for your political agenda. My intentions were full of good-will. Just to be clear….I’m not abdicating ANY of my responsiblity as a parent to the government because I believe in supporting a bill that toughens laws again CONVICTED sexual predators. Never once did I imply that the government should have more responsibility than parents in protecting our children…only that it should do more to protect us from those who have already been convicted. Case in point… look at the crimes committed by pedophile Joseph Duncan (who by the way was a complete stranger to the family). He abducted Shasta Groene and her brother AFTER killing her mother, brother, and mother’s boyfriend at their home in Coeur D’Alene, Idaho. This man had already served time for VIOLENT sexual offenses. Cases like this are why I believe in supporting a bill like the Adam Walsh Child Protection Act. For the record, I agree with honestpoet on the issue that nonvioent drug offenders should be released from prison to make room for sexual predators. Let the nonviolent drug offenders be rehabilitated-they might have a better chance.
Here is my response to you yesterday:
Dear Michelle,
I gather that the person who sent you my email must know you and felt as if you might appreciate it (or not). While it is fine to voice your opinions as a matter of free speech, I would kindly ask that you please do not take the liberty of using a group e-mail to promote your political agenda. The intent of my message to friends and women in my neighborhood was to provide information by which they could make their own determination of whether to write their representatives. Of course parents have the primary role for their children… but please remember that not all families are equal in structure. (There are plenty of sad statistics that point to broken homes and parents doing the best they can to provide for their children). My suggestion is to provide an over-arching information safety net by which society as a whole can benefit. I believe it is poor manners to capitalize on your unsolicited soap-box agenda to people you don’t know and I find it rather insulting that you would presume to educate us.
Sincerely,
Jacey S.
Lesson learned……I will be very careful from now on who I send personal emails to and wary of how they are worded- as I now see how easily things can be taken out of context!
Have a great day!
I am in NOLA for a baby shower and actually discussed this issue with some folks here. My biggest problem with the matter is that Jacey must think me a republican. Arghhh…
FWIW, Jacey sent exactly what she said she did although I must point out that I didn’t attempt to paraphrase her at all; I think I was accurate when I said was neither nice nor rude but if she sees through other glasses, I can do nothing about it. I will say that another sis thought Jacey and I might be friends except for this issue. Go figure.
I will also admit that I hesitated to respond to Jacey’s second email because I did not want my lil’ sis to experience ugliness in the neighborhood. And truthfully, I don’t know how to respond to what she originally complained about. Do you say ‘I’m sorry’ for asking someone to think about an issue or two? Jacey certainly had no issue sending her “agenda” to people outside of her personal political camp, and for that matter, people outside of her scope of friendship. For her to be angry about my response is, at best lazy and at worst, dishonest.
Personal note to Jacey: Call my lil sis- you know who she is- get my number and give me a ring. I think you will find that we want the same thing and have only different methods. Perhaps we can beat the shit out of each other’s brains enough to come up with something new.
All of that said, I will look up the case you mentioned. You’ve obviously done your homework too.
G’night Jacey, you make blogging fun.
I don’t see why she would take issue with your response when she was sending out mass emails and requesting others to forward it (if they so wished.) It doesn’t seem to me like you were trying to capitalize on this at all, or further your agenda. You were breaking it down to make sense. If the government was worthless during the Katrina fiasco then what makes folks think it will be effective in protecting children?
Dear Michelle,
I never thought of you as a Republican. Your role in Libertarian politics quells that idea. As a career women turned stay at home mom of 3 children, I am most involved in my children’s lives. I believe that as a mom and member of a community that I have a responsibility to my children and to do my best to contribute to the community at large. Hence, my initial e-mail was spawned by the interest to share information with friends and neighbors on a topic that many find disturbing. So my intent was pretty straight forward.
I am not at all angry nor have an issue with you voicing your opinions. They do not warrant an apology. I am open to other’s positions on a topic and enjoy the challenge that opposing views provide (enabling me to absorb, reassess, or dismiss another position). It’s a great mental exercise.
Nevertheless, this e-mail exchange represents my first visit to the “blog world” and has taught me that there is a high possibility that an information exchange between friends and neighbors can be misunderstood and taken out of context. As the reader on this end, it seems as though you are taking my position out of context… sort of a blog “spin” if you will. This certainly has been enlightening to me.
So while our positions may be polarized, (which is fine) my biggest disappointment (and learning curve) has been having your initial response unfold in front of friends and neighbors in a rather confrontational manner. I would have preferred that you e-mailed me your initial thoughts instead of responding to the circle of friends and family I sent it to en masse.
Additionally…..I did not send my email to people outside my “scope of friendship”. I only gave permission for those who desired to pass it on the freedom to do so. From there forth, I would consider the person passing it along doing so on their own regard, not mine. Anyone was free to take it or leave it….
That said…I have received much thanks, support and understanding from those in my original email as they know me and understood my intentions. My only regret is that I could have potentially offended a good neighbor (your sister) by including her in a group message as I did. In the future I will be more conscientious before doing so. I look forward to seeing her at our future get togethers.
To avoid any further entangled rhetoric, this shall be my last post. Good luck to you and your family. Given your roll in Libertarian politics, I suggest that you’re in a key position to revisit issues that perhaps you have dismissed – -in this case consider an issue or two on how a bill like the AWCPA would serve the greater good. Unfortunately, there are plenty of heartbreaking examples like the Shasta Groene case in which this particular piece of legislation could benefit.
Best Regards,
Jacey
Jacey,
Thank you for your thoughts, though I wish you would reconsider your position on ending the discussion. I looked up the case you mentioned and found it sickening. I hope that the bastard who hurt Shasta and murdered her family rots in prison; death would be an escape for him. I did notice though that he was, at the time of Shasta and Dylan’s abduction, already a convicted child predator and on a sex offender registry. That registry did nothing to help Shasta, Dylan, or their parents.
I went back to look again at the AWCPA, and found that I agree fully with a couple of provisions:
I take issue with the additional funding because A) the registries do not work for the intended purpose and B) court enforcement of a law is not contingent on funding.
I have to admit that I am happy that we had this discussion at all. You have been respectful and you did urge me to look again at the AWCPA. My position on registries has not changed, but with that exception, I agree with the Act.
FWIW, “L” thinks well of you and I think the other sis was correct in her assessment of our personalities.
Sincerely,
Miche
Suggested Reading:
http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC93.pdf
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